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Diferencias entre Motores F20C, F20C1, F20C2 y F22C


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#1 Storm

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Escrito 23 abril 2013 - 09:48:40

Myu buenas,

Ésto viene de aquí (gracias, Oxigen!):

http://clubhondaspir...re-y-restyling/

 

Y ya para rizar el rizo mencionar que hay dos f20c que son el F20C y el F20C2 (que parece ser una revision del primero) , aunque no seria capaz de decir las diferencias

 

Y el tema es que acabo de flipar con lo de los F20C1 y F20C2.

 

Lo poco que he podido empezar a leer:

http://www.s2ki.com/...f20c1-vs-f20c2/

http://www.s2ki.com/...0

 

De este último hilo:

http://www.s2ki.com/...ost__p__2520610

 

Well one difference is OBD II. The C1 doesn't have it!

 

http://www.s2ki.com/...ost__p__5699178

 

The F20C2 engine which is considerably better in the low rpm's than the F20C1.

 

http://www.s2ki.com/...ost__p__9937217

 

My S2000 was also imported from Germany.
Imported into the Netherlands.
In the German manual its stated at the Technische Daten, page 277, that the compression ration is 11.0 : 1
In the manual they don't mention horsepower or top speed.
They do however mention that the F20C1 (so I guess it is sold in Europe somewhere?) needs super unleaded with minimum of 95 RON and the F20C2 needs super unleaded with a minimum of 98 RON.
The label inside the gas cap cover of my car states it needs RON 98.

 

Alguién tiene más info?

P.D: Deibit, socorro!

Ja, ja, ja!!!

 

Edit: Vaya, sobre ésto ya hablamos antes pero, para variar, sin llegar a ninguna conclusión:

http://clubhondaspir...-f20c1-y-f20c2/

 

Bueno, lo que tenemos, por ahora:

http://en.wikipedia....nda_F20C_engine

 

F20C (pero F20C1 o F20C2?)
Displacement: 1,997 cc (121.9 cu in)
Compression: 11.7:1
Bore: 87 mm (3.4 in)
Stroke: 84 mm (3.3 in)
Rod Length: 153 mm
Rod/stroke ratio: 1.82
Power:
 JDM 250 PS (183.88 kW) @ 8,300rpm & 22.2kgm (217.71 Nm) @ 7,500 rpm
 USDM 240 HP @ 8,300 rpm; 153 ft lb, 207 Nm @ 7,500 rpm
Redline: 9000 rpm
VTEC: 6100 rpm

The F20C was designed with high maximum rpm capability in mind, for increased power output; redline is at 9000 rpm, with VTEC engagement at 6000 rpm. Its relatively short stroke of 84mm results in a mean piston speed of 4965 ft/m, 56.42 mph or 25 m/s, higher than any other production car to date.[3] Power output is 240 bhp (179 kW) at 8300 rpm in North America and Europe. The Japanese version, which has a higher compression ratio, is capable of 250 PS (247 bhp) at 8600 rpm. Honda's F20C Engine won a spot on Wards' 10 Best Engines List four times, in 2000, 2001, 2002 and 2003.

The engine displaces 1,997 cc (121.9 cu in), lending to the Honda S2000's name. This method of naming follows suit with the rest of the Honda S roadsters (i.e. Honda S500, S600, and S800).

Applications:
    1999-2005 Honda S2000 (Japan)
    2000-2003 Honda S2000 (F20C1) (North America)
    1999–2009 Honda S2000 (United Kingdom, Europe, Australia)

The F20C produces the highest specific power output for any naturally aspirated 2.0L piston engine in a car priced under US$100,000, at 123.5 hp (92.1 kW) per liter, ahead of the SR16VE N1 found in the homologation version of JDM Nissan Pulsar producing 197 bhp (147 kW) for a specific power of 123.45 bhp (92.06 kW) per liter. The F20C held the record for producing the highest specific power output for any mass production naturally aspirated piston engine until Ferrari released the 458 Italia and Porsche the GT3 RS 4.0 in 2010/2011, which produce 124.5 HP/L / 125 HP/L, respectively.

 

F22C1

Displacement: 2,157 cc (131.6 cu in)

Power:
 USDM 237 hp (177 kW) @7800 rpm; 162 lb·ft (220 N·m) at 6500 rpm

Redline: 8200 rpm

 

In 2004, Honda produced a stroked 90.7 mm (3.57 in) version of the F20C, increasing displacement by 160 cc (9.8 cu in) to 2,157 cc (131.6 cu in). Dubbed the F22C1, it was originally designed for the North American market being introduced for the 2004 model year. Maximum power output was maintained at 237 hp (177 kW) @7800 rpm. Rated torque increased from 153 lb·ft (207 N·m) at 7500 rpm for the F20C to 162 lb·ft (220 N·m) at 6500 rpm for the F22C. The redline was reduced from 9000 rpm to 8200 rpm, mandated by the longer travel distance of the pistons. Peak horsepower output is rated identical to the F20C.

The F22C1 was used exclusively in the North American market for 2004 and 2005 with the F20C being used in all other markets. Despite the displacement increase, the car to which the F22C1 is mated retains the name of Honda S2000. In 2006, the engine fully replaced F20C engines in the Japanese market as well which resulted in a drop in rated power output from 250 PS (247 bhp) to 242 PS (239 bhp). Outside of Japan and the United States, the F20C continued to be the only available engine.

Applications:
    2004–2009 Honda S2000 (F22C1)(North America)
    2006–2009 Honda S2000 (Japan)


Editado por Storm, 23 abril 2013 - 10:19:23.


#2 Storm

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Escrito 23 abril 2013 - 14:08:34

Cobardes! Ja, ja, ja!!!

Bueno, mi coche lleva el F20C2:

http://clubhondaspir...or/IMG_1595.JPG

http://clubhondaspir...or/IMG_1596.JPG

http://clubhondaspir...or/IMG_1597.JPG

Y sobre el tema de la gasolina:

http://clubhondaspir...or/IMG_1588.JPG

http://clubhondaspir...or/IMG_1589.JPG


Editado por Storm, 23 abril 2013 - 14:11:08.


#3 vanquish

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Escrito 24 abril 2013 - 09:27:34

Cobardes! Ja, ja, ja!!!

Bueno, mi coche lleva el F20C2:

http://clubhondaspir...or/IMG_1595.JPG

 

 

¿Dónde dices que está esa chapita?



#4 rubenSR

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Escrito 24 abril 2013 - 13:45:54

en el vano motor cerca del radiador si no recuerdo mal

El mio también es F20C2 es un MY05

en la ficha tecnica también espeficica que tipo de F20 es.



#5 Darko85

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Escrito 24 abril 2013 - 13:49:55

todos los europeos son f20c2,  los americanos del 00 al 03 son  f20c1, del 04 al 09 f22c


Editado por Darko85, 24 abril 2013 - 13:50:32.


#6 oxigen101

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Escrito 24 abril 2013 - 16:02:30

Efectivamente



#7 Storm

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Escrito 24 abril 2013 - 23:24:59

¿Dónde dices que está esa chapita?

 

Aquí se ve:

 

 

La chapita naranja.

 

todos los europeos son f20c2,  los americanos del 00 al 03 son  f20c1, del 04 al 09 f22c

 

Sí? Así, sin más?

NADIE tiene info de los cambios del F20C1 al F20C2?


Editado por Storm, 24 abril 2013 - 23:25:42.





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