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#1 Storm

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Escrito 06 agosto 2008 - 11:51:44

Muy buenas,
Llevo tiempo mirando el tema y me acabé haciendo un pequeño resumen de todo lo que hay en
http://www.s2ki.com/...howtopic=599836 para poder comparar los coches de forma más rápida y cómoda.
De todas formas, hay muchísima info en el FAQ de la misma página:
http://www.s2ki.com/...howtopic=358040

Changes between 2000-2001 & 2002-2003, Noting the changes from MY00 to MY03
http://www.s2ki.com/...howtopic=599836

Original Specs:
Performance:
• 1,997 cc 2 liters 4 in-line front engine with 87 mm bore, 84 mm stroke, 11 compression ratio, double overhead cam, variable valve timing/camshaft and four valves per cylinder
• Premium unleaded fuel
• Fuel economy EPA highway (l/100km): 9
• Multi-point injection fuel system
• Main 50 liter premium unleaded fuel tank
• Power: SAE and 179 kW , 240 HP @ 8,300 rpm; 153 ft lb , 208 Nm @ 7,500 rpm

Handling
• ABS
• Four disc brakes including two ventilated discs
• Immobilizer
• Limited slip differential
• Spacesaver steel rim internal spare wheel
• Wishbone front and rear suspension with stabilizer bar independent with coil springs

Exterior:
• Front and rear body color bumpers
• Fixed hoop convertible rollover protection
• Softtop electric convertible roof
• Driver and passenger power body color door mirrors
• External dimensions: overall length (mm): 4,120, overall width (mm): 1,750, overall height (mm): 1,285, wheelbase (mm): 2,400, front track (mm): 1,471, rear track (mm): 1,509 and curb to curb turning circle (mm): 10,790
• Projector beam lens Xenon bulb headlights
• Heat reflective glass
• Luxury trim alloy on gearknob
• Chrome tip exhaust
• Plastic rear window
• Tinted glass on cabin
• Weights: curb weight (kg) 1,274
• Windshield wipers with fixed intermittent wipe
• Wheels 16.0 " machined alloy
• Bridgestone Potenza S-02 tires - designed specifically for the S2000
• Front Tires P205/55WR16
• Rear Tires (if different from Front) 225/50

Interior:
• Air conditioning
• Fixed mast antenna
• Audio anti-theft protection: concealable
• Manufacturer's own 2-speaker audio system
• Cargo capacity: all seats in place (liters): 142
• Dashboard full console , floor full console with open storage box
• Courtesy lights
• Cruise control
• Front seats cup holders
• Door ajar warning
• Driver and passenger front airbag
• Sports seats
• 3-point reel front seat belts on driver seat and passenger seat with pre-tensioners
• Two head restraints on front seats
• Illuminated entry system
• Internal dimensions: front headroom (mm): 879, front hip room (mm): 1,275, front leg room
(mm): 1,125 and front shoulder room (mm): 1,265
• Low fuel level warning
• Remote power locks includes trunk/hatch
• Power steering
• Front power windows with one one-touch
• Front reading lights
• Rear view mirror
• Remote audio controls
• Remote fuel filler door release
• Front seat back storage
• Leather seat upholstery
• Seating: two seats
• Service interval indicator
• Leather covered steering wheel
• Tachometer
• Passenger vanity mirror
• Ventilation system with recirculation setting and micro filter

Original Colors:
• Berlina Black / Black interior
• New Formula Red / Black interior
• Silverstone Silver Metallic / Black interior
• Spa Yellow / Black interior

Changes in 2001:
New for 2001 is a removable hard-top
• Clock now standard in the radio (original S2000s have no clock)
• Wind deflector now standard

Changes in 2002:
upgraded center console and door panel net storage pockets.
An anti-theft feature and silver faceplate have been added
Hardtop: Constructed of lightweight aluminum, the hardtop includes a large glass rear window with a defogger and a simple attachment process. The top provides both reduced interior noise and an aggressive new look. weighs 44 lbs
metallic accents
• Stereo gained digital bass/treble/fade/bal controls
• Stereo now 30W/ch, up from 20W/ch
• Door speakers changed from paper cones to blue plastic
• Two additional speakers added in the doors - tweeters
• Black interior trim around the IP changed to dark grey (metallic look) plastic from black plastic
• The tonneu cover changed. There is only 1 clip on the each side to push in from underneth. Reportedly it is easier to attach and doesn't appear to 'flap' up like previous design
• Heat and A/C fan are more powerful. The 2nd and 3rd fan speeds are noticeably more effective
• The cupholder cover and trash hole behind it are textured plastic as opposed to the same untextured earlier ones
• The soft-top now has a glass window and rear-defroster in place of the original plastic window
• The tach indicator line is now white and the scale connected by a solid white arc line
• A second post has been added to the carpeted floor mats to secure them
• Metal placard on door sills slightly revised

Exterior:
• The shade of wheels are a slightly darker silver with a little more metallic-flake

Chassis:
• The front sway bar was reportedly reduced slightly in size.

Engine:
• ECU reprogrammed - 02-03 S2000s typically make ~10 more whp than 00-01s
• Oil banjo bolts upgraded: http://www.s2ki.com/...install-w-pics/
• Transmission "improved" (stated by Honda) for shifting (smoother and quieter shifts).
• The S2000 also has a new high-capacity clutch.

Changes in 2003:
high-capacity clutch, featured in the 6-speed manual transmission, results in exceptionally smooth and quiet shifting.


Changes between 2003 and 2004-2005, Noting the changes between MY03 & MY04
http://www.s2ki.com/...howtopic=483593

Also note!
In 2004, every S2000 changed to AP2 chassis worldwide, the only thing is the F20C engines that were stuffed into AP2 cars for another couple years outside the North American market.

Every AP2 has the AP2 suspension, trans, gearing, body, interior etc. except for the select AP2s sold outside NA with the F20C engine and corresponding IP with the 9k redline.

So, the AP1 chassis sold with F20C engine from 2000-20003. The AP2 chassis sold with F22C engine in NA from 2004 on. Japan had the AP2 with the F20C until 2006, and Europe, Asia, and the Middle East switched at different times from 2004-2007.

For its 2004 redesign, Honda engineers built on those ideals and elevated the S2000 to a higher class by strengthening the all-around performance, enhancing the interior and giving the exterior a subtly bolder appearance.

* Larger wheels and tires (17-inch)
* Revised suspension tuning
* Revised transmission gear ratios and improved shift feeling
* Freshened interior design

On the street, the 2004 S2000 transmits less ride harshness, while the enhanced powerband reduces the need to shift as often in certain circumstances. The center console now has two cupholders, a storage tray and more utility.

Performance and Handling

* Transmission shifter direct feel increased
* High-speed stability enhanced
* At-the-limit performance increased with more gradual fall-off
* Sensitivity to disturbances decreased (less bump steer)
* Steering feedback enhanced
* Brake pedal dynamic feel enhanced

Comfort and Convenience

* Interior space increased (more elbow and shoulder room).
* Interior storage functionality increased

A revised 6-speed, manual transmission provides lower gear ratios on gears one through five, and a higher sixth speed gear for highway cruising

For 2004, single carbon synchronizers on all forward gears replace double- and triple-cone brass synchronizers in order to provide a more direct shift feel and reduce mechanical loss in the transmission. The use of carbon synchronizers for all forward gears helps reduce shift effort. Reverse gear uses single-cone brass synchronizer for smoother shifting and quieter operation.
1st
4% lower

2nd
4% lower

3rd
4% lower

4th
4% lower

5th
1% lower

6th
2% higher

Reverse
No change

The transmission is a compact design and features a direct shift linkage with class-leading feel and short throws. A Torsen limited-slip differential

Larger front 215/45 87W and rear 245/40 91W tires are mounted on newly-designed 17-inch alloy wheels, and 11-inch brake discs (vented in front) provide excellent stopping power and brake feel. For 2004, new brake pad material improves the pedal feel and resists fading in high performance driving.

The nose has slightly improved aerodynamics for 2004 that involves re-shaping the front bumper.

For 2004, controls such as the steering, brakes and clutch, operate with a new level of precision and have an even more direct feel.

3-point seat belts with load limiter and pretensioner, a compact SRS system for the driver and passenger, roll bars and reinforced windshield posts

The Torsen limited-slip differential

For 2004, the suspension geometry has been carefully tuned for optimum road-holding and steering feel.

Front and rear stabilizers (1.04 x 0.18-inch front/1.00x0.18-inch rear) help keep body roll to a minimum.

enhancing the 2004 S2000 chassis included simultaneously improving both at-the-limit track performance and the street performance during everyday driving conditions. tires and suspension and enhance "limit controllability. tire size was increased, rear suspension bump steer qualities minimized, and the rear roll center was lowered.

- Transmission shifter direct feel increased
- High-speed stability enhanced
- At-the-limit performance increased with more gradual fall-off
- Sensitivity to disturbances decreased (less bump steer)
- Steering feedback enhanced
- Brake pedal dynamic feel enhanced
- For 2004, new brake pad material improves the pedal feel and resists fading in high performance driving.
- The nose has slightly improved aerodynamics for 2004 that involves re-shaping the front bumper.
- Honda engineers designed a highly rigid monocoque body for the S2000 and strengthened it even more for 2004.
- Enhanced suspension bushings
- Revised Electrically Powered Steering (EPS) programming with optimized steering gearbox ratios and enhanced steering bushing rigidity
- Brake pedal rigidity and build-up feel increased
- Brake pads upgraded to enhance brake fade durability and master cylinder power ratio optimized
- Transmission efficiency and direct feel improved with carbon synchronizers

A freshened exterior appearance gives the 2004 S2000 a more powerful appearance through a wider opening air intake for a pronounced and bold look. The rear exterior has a wider, more horizontal stance with a lower height. New oval, large diameter, exhaust tips accent a powerful presence. Larger wheels and tires (17-inch) add to the aggressive demeanor of the S2000. Headlights and taillights have been reconfigured with triple beam designs (instead of dual beam designs)

* Front bumper design improves aerodynamic performance and uses a wide open air intake
* Rear bumper design is lower to the ground and is accented by large-diameter dual oval exhaust tips
* Larger wheels and tires (17-inch) provide a more aggressive appearance while adding to overall performance
* Spiral double horn replaces flat double horn
* Transmission gear ratios revised (4% lower on gears one through four)
* Transmission efficiency and direct feel improved with carbon synchronizers

a greater volume of oil to the engine at all engine speeds. The oil pump is driven vía a silent chain connected to the crankshaft.

The 2004 S2000 employs a pull-type clutch mechanism and reinforced friction materials better suited

Drivetrain & Exhaust:
- Differential slightly revised from AP1 models
- Clutch delay valve added to clutch slave cylinder, slave cyinder is revised, larger
- clutch flywheel heavier
- clutch reported to have higher engegement than AP1

Suspension & chassis:
- Rear control arms lengthened
- Spring changes: Front: Increased spring rate 6.7% Rear: Decreased spring rate 10%
- Steering rack ratio increase slightly to reduce high-speed nervousness
- Steering Gear Ratio now 14.9:1 from 13.8:1 - tuned to match new tire size
- Rear sway bar thinner
- Upgraded brakes incorporating an ABS system that features yaw control logic

Interior:
- Instrument cluster changed - now fuel and temp gauges arc instead of being straight
- Tweeter speaker housings now incorporated into the door panels, door panels are changed to integrate into the dashboard
- Dealer-installed headrest tweeters are available (two per seat)
- Center console is covered in brushed aluminum trim
- Redesigned door panels provide more shoulder and elbow room
- The air-conditioning-system evaporator is a new design that takes up less space, is more efficient at transferring heat and has greater corrosion resistance
- Rio Yellow Pearl (Rio is a new color - Spa yellow dropped)
- Body rigidity increased (per Honda)

2004 exterior - revised wheels, headlight assemblies, and nose:

better stability and composure through all types of corners. Gone is the twitchy, nervous rear end
entire car behave smoothly and predictably.
The steering is fantastic — quick and precise — enabling the car to exhibit flawless balance through left/right transitions.

has the best gearbox in the business. This direct-linkage 6-speed unit — with its well-defined gates, short throws and solid overall feel — scored a perfecto 20 in the Gearbox category.

The gearbox is quite simply the best in the world, with wonderfully short, extremely positive throws. This current S2000 is less twitchy than the original

Immobilizer Theft-Deterrent System


Changes between 2004-5 & 2006-7, Noting the changes between MY05 & MY06
http://www.s2ki.com/...howtopic=538016

Drivetrain & Exhaust:
- Drive by wire throttle control system (works with the VSA). Enables the continuous monitoring and adjustment of throttle pedal sensitivity. manages the S2000's cruise control function for greater precision.

- Vehicle stability assist (VSA). Can independently coordinate each of the disk brakes through the 4-channel anti-lock brake system, along with the throttle, to enhance vehicle stability.

Interior:
- Revised seat design - seats no longer have back pockets. headrests are closed, shape ane leather materials are different.

- Standard headrest speakers

Laguna blue over black - new color in 2006
New Formula Red over black

Other Stuff:
- Weight increases from 2835 to 2855 lbs
- Maintenance minder system
- Power train warranty extended to 5 years/60,000 miles
- CARB emissions rating is now LEV-2

features Electronic Brake Distribution and Brake Assist.

High Intensity Discharge (HID) headlamps, now with daytime running lights.


Changes between 2006-7 & 2008, & the CR, Noting the changes between MY07 & MY08
http://www.s2ki.com/...howtopic=525439

Engine:
- No changes

Drivetrain & Exhaust:
- No changes

Suspension & chassis:
- revised spring and damper tuning "that subtly influences steering feel and high speed vehicle behavior".
- Coil springs - Front: Stiffer by 7%, Rear: Stiffer by 9% (from 2007 spec)
- Dampers - Front: Damping Force Increased 10%, Rear: Damping Force Increased 5% (from 2007 spec)
- Stabilizer bars - Front from 26.5 x t4.5 (2007) to 27.2 x t5.3. Rear has no change

Wheels & Tires:
- 17-inch aluminum alloy, twin 5-spoke pattern wheels painted silver

Interior:
- Revised instrument panel meters - Specifically, the fuel and temperature meters now reside along the arc formed by the tachometer instead of a semi-circle configuration below and to the right of the tachometer.

- Tire Pressure Monitoring System (TPMS)

S2000 CR Exclusive Features:
• Firmer, track-oriented suspension settings for springs, dampers and stabilizer bars
• Structural enhancements include rear body brace and steering gearbox brace
• Quicker steering ratio of 13.8:1 (compared to 14.9:1)
• Ultra-high performance Bridgestone RE070 tires, 215/45R17 front and 255/40R17 rear
• Aerodynamic body kit for reduced coefficient of lift (Cl) and improved balance
• Removable aluminum hardtop
• Sport muffler
• High-grip fabric seating surfaces with synthetic suede trim
• Omitted items for weight reduction: convertible soft top, audio system (optional), air conditioning (optional), spare tire and jack, and sound insulation
CR: which translates into quicker, more linear steering response

Also note the new seats, which are taller and now rise above the roll hoops. This silver is also new for 2008 - Chicane Silver Metallic.


Editado por Storm, 05 julio 2012 - 10:22:42.


#2 seviabc

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Escrito 06 agosto 2008 - 13:55:44

alguien que haga un resumen en español que no entiendo ni papa

#3 trecko

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Escrito 06 agosto 2008 - 21:37:12

a q conclusion llegamos ?
es mejor el AP1 o el AP2 ?

#4 deibit

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Escrito 07 agosto 2008 - 08:34:32

a q conclusion llegamos ?
es mejor el AP1 o el AP2 ?


es el mismo coche (al menos en europa) solo hay retoques esteticos, electronicos (DBW, VSA..) y refuerzos de chasis o retoques en suspension que de todas maneras vas a cambiar cuando tengas el coche (sea AP1 o AP2)

Editado por deibit, 07 agosto 2008 - 08:34:44.


#5 Storm

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Escrito 07 agosto 2008 - 08:46:56

alguien que haga un resumen en español que no entiendo ni papa

Lo siento, no controlo nada sobre traductores online.

a q conclusion llegamos ?
es mejor el AP1 o el AP2 ?

es el mismo coche (al menos en europa) solo hay retoques esteticos, electronicos (DBW, VSA..) y refuerzos de chasis o retoques en suspension que de todas maneras vas a cambiar cuando tengas el coche (sea AP1 o AP2)

Nooooo!!!
No es tan fácil.
Cúal te gusta más por lo que lees?
Cúal te podrías permitir comprar?
Has podido probar versiones diferentes?
Para qué lo quieres?
Cómo conduces?
Pienso que, hasta poder probar varios, hay que leer las especificaciones y opiniones de la gente para hacerse un idea y, por eso mismo, el tema es muy subjetivo.

#6 Storm

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Escrito 07 agosto 2008 - 11:49:32

alguien que haga un resumen en español que no entiendo ni papa

Me parece que tampoco vas e entender mucho más pero bueno...
Mediante traductor del Google (http://www.google.es...age_tools?hl=es):
http://translate.goo...t...es&ie=UTF-8

#7 Storm

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Escrito 12 agosto 2013 - 00:24:29

a q conclusion llegamos ?
es mejor el AP1 o el AP2 ?

 

Añado ésto por aquí:

 

 

 

 

P.D: Interesante el tema de montar cambiar las llantas de 16 y 17 de un coche a otro.


Editado por Storm, 12 agosto 2013 - 10:34:06.


#8 Storm

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Escrito 26 agosto 2021 - 08:55:35

es el mismo coche (al menos en europa) solo hay retoques esteticos, electronicos (DBW, VSA..) y refuerzos de chasis o retoques en suspension que de todas maneras vas a cambiar cuando tengas el coche (sea AP1 o AP2)

 

Yo partiría del que más te cuadre (relación año-precio-kms-estado) y lo vas modificando a medida que lo creas oportuno, sí.
 

Más info (que ya teníamos en otros hilos):

https://honda-tech.c...arison-2173176/

http://s2k.wikidot.com/modelos

 

:chino:


Editado por Storm, 26 agosto 2021 - 12:29:21.


#9 Yayo

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Escrito 27 agosto 2021 - 15:26:30

Reflotandoooooo....XD

#10 Storm

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Escrito 28 agosto 2021 - 08:17:04

Reflotandoooooo.... XD

 

Tranquilo, algún día entenderá el por qué de las cosas... :veo:






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