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Donde comprar Motor F20C/F22C NUEVO


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#1 Ka2000

Ka2000

    F20C (S2000) 240 hp

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Escrito 31 March 2022 - 12:18:59

Hola a todos, abro un hilo especifico para poner las diferentes opciones a la hora de buscar un motor F20/F22 NUEVO para nuestros S;

 

 

-En Holanda esta este sitio que vende culatas completas ( 7.400 Euros ) y Bloques completos ( 6.900 Euros ), CAJA de Cambios ( 5.900 Euros ) esta mas cerca y hacen envios;

 

 

OEM Honda complete assembled cylinder head (S2000 99-09) | 10003-PCX-E04 | A4H-TECH / ALL4HONDA.COM | A4H-TECH.COM

 

OEM Honda complete transmission assembly (S2000 99-09) | OEM-TRANS-S2K | A4H-TECH / ALL4HONDA.COM | A4H-TECH.COM

 

OEM Honda complete assembled lower block (S2000 99-09) | 10002-PCX-E09 | A4H-TECH / ALL4HONDA.COM | A4H-TECH.COM

 

 

 

-He visto que en USA venden los F20, F22 Spoon completos con culata nuevos por 12.000Euros;

 

Spoon - Complete Engine - Honda S2000 - Nengun Performance

 

 

-En Spoon UK, completos también salen por unos 16.700 Euros + Aranceles;

 

COMPLETE BLUEPRINTED ENGINE [2.0L] 10000-F20-C00 Spoon Sports

 

( Pero también venden el bloque completo y montado con pistones y demas por  7.400Euros + Aranceles )

 

BLUEPRINTED F20C SHORT BLOCK [2.0L] 10002-F20-000 Spoon Sports

 

 

-En TODA RACING ( Japon ) nos dan un motor entero ajustado por ellos por 17600Euros.. pero lo interesante es que por rehacernos el nuestro nos cobran "solo" 12.500Euros..

 

Complete Engine - TODA RACING (toda-racing.co.jp)

 

 

-Hay que ver cuanto costaria y si se puede conseguir en concesionario HONDA en España. no se si alguien tiene contactos para preguntar..

 

 

 

 


Como curiosidad pongo precios de lo que costaria hacer un REBUILD de nuestros Motorcillos en un sitio reputado y especializado en este tipo de motores ( Mano de obra ) ;

 

 

Opcion1;

OEM BUILD
Starting at $1750 - (Labor Only) for a Shortblock and $3000 - (Labor Only) for a Longblock.

 

Our OEM build consists of a full teardown followed by a meticulous cleaning and inspection. Any unforeseen internal problems are brought to the customer's attention, along with repair/replacement options. At this point we know exactly what we are starting with allowing us to address any problems before the build actually starts.
   
The "build" begins with the crankshaft getting polished with all bearing clearances measured and adjusted. The rods get measured and checked for out of roundness. We use new OEM Honda pistons and rings with the factory style press fit wrist pins. All rings get checked  and adjusted for the proper gap. The cylinders get measured, bored and honed to specs we have used in winning race cars as well as daily drivers. The crankshaft is installed with the blueprinted bearings. We do not use "one size fits all" bearings, instead we utilize the OEM color coded bearings, fitting every rod and main bearing with its proper color match bearing.
   The piston and rod assemblies are installed paying attention to the ring placement to ensure proper ring seal. We use all OEM gaskets  and seals, including OEM type R oil pumps on all B Series engines. The new Oil pump is disassembled and filled with engine assembly lube ensuring that the engine builds oil pressure quickly upon startup. The new oil pump is installed followed by the windage tray and oil pump pickup. The OEM oil pan is reinstalled unless the customer wants an aftermarket upgrade. On D, B, F, H, and J series we replace the timing belt tensioner and bolt, along with an OEM timing belt and water pump, while the K Series gets an inspection of the timing chain, guides and tensioner, and replacement if necessary.
   The cylinder head gets a full teardown and inspection. A modified OEM style valve job is done to ensure max power but keeping the reliability that a daily driver requires for a long
, hassle-free service life (Link to our cylinder head services HERE). We install new valve seals on every build and new valve guides if needed. The cylinder head is checked for straightness and the cam journals are checked for scores. The cylinder head is reassembled with new OEM valve springs or aftermarket units if the customer requests it.
   The cylinder head is now mated with the King Motorsports prepped bottom end with an OEM head gasket. The intake manifold and throttle body are thoroughly cleaned and inspected. The injector O-rings are replaced to prevent fuel leaks and all crush washers are replaced. An OEM or Hondata intake gasket is used to secure the intake manifold to the head.
   The distributor o-ring is replaced along with the VTEC solenoid gasket/screen. At this point the engine is completed and is sealed to keep foreign objects out. The OEM build is now complete and ready for break-in at King, or for customer pick-up.

 

 

Opcion2;

STREET PERFORMANCE BUILD
Starting at $1750 - (Labor Only) for a Shortblock and $3500 - (Labor Only) for a Longblock.

 

Our street performance build consists of the OEM build plus your choice of aftermarket cams, cam gears, pistons, valve springs and retainers. The street performance can be built for pump or race gas. When aftermarket cams are used we degree them, check piston to valve, valve to valve and piston to head clearance on EVERY engine we build.
   When aftermarket pistons are used we bore and hone the block to the piston's specs, retaining the stock sleeves.
   We also modify cylinder head oiling on high lift aftermarket cams. We check the valve spring pressure and bind point - an often overlooked step when using aftermarket cams.

 

 

Opcion3;

ULTRA BUILD
Starting at $1750 - (Labor Only) for a Shortblock and $3500 - (Labor Only) for a Longblock.

 

Our Ultra Build is the pinnacle of performance and showcases all of our expertise. Simply put, the Ultra Build will deliver the most power your engine can produce. The Ultra Build includes all of the applicable parts and services in both the OEM and Performance Build, plus cylinder sleeving and aftermarket crankshafts to increase the stroke and engine displacement. These engines usually have 13:1 or higher compression.
   The goal with the Ultra Build is to make the most WHP possible while still retaining race reliability. Ultra Build engines receive our CNC ported cylinder heads when possible, and in the case the CNC head is not used, we do a meticulous port/polish by hand, complete with flow bench testing. The cylinder head is usually mated with one of our custom intake manifolds and headers - each fabricated for your specific build.

 

+ Info;

King Motorsports Unlimited, Inc. - King Motorsports Engine Build Prices & Process

 

 

 

 

 

Y si no.. siempre nos quedara arriesgarnos a rehacerlo o un SWAP.. 


Editado por Ka2000, 01 April 2022 - 11:45:14.


#2 SrK

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    K20C (ep3) 200 hp

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Escrito 31 March 2022 - 20:11:24

Al loro porque aun que el bloque es igual mecánicamente, cuando metieron el acelerador electrónico cambiaron la corona dentada del CKP, y se tiene que abrir la tapa de la cadena (Que viene ya instalada) y sustituir la corona en los anteriores al 2006, con lo cual anulas la garantía de compra.



#3 Ka2000

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Escrito 07 April 2022 - 12:28:17

Para rehacer motor de una manera mas extrema y si el dinero no es problema.. también tenemos en Japon a "K-Tech" quienes te hacen un F20 casi de F1.. con una preparacion de carreras te aseguran 100.000Km de fiabilidad !

 


Editado por Ka2000, 07 April 2022 - 12:29:06.


#4 aDrede

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    B18C5 (Integra) 210 hp

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Escrito 08 April 2022 - 22:01:30

22.000€ + impuestos + envío  :uff:



#5 Kullman

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Escrito 09 April 2022 - 09:27:49

Hace años había una empresa en Emiratos que se dedicaba exactamente a eso, a vender motores reconstruidos, porque nuevos... veo poco probable que existan...



#6 Torio84

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    B18C5 (Integra) 210 hp

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Escrito 18 April 2022 - 18:51:25

Yo rehíce el motor hará unos 3 años, por completo, y funciona que es una locura, si necesitas alguna info o que te pueda ayudar a algo escribeme un direct, faltaría mas!



#7 npulsar

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Escrito 19 April 2022 - 11:32:04

Yo rehíce el motor hará unos 3 años, por completo, y funciona que es una locura, si necesitas alguna info o que te pueda ayudar a algo escribeme un direct, faltaría mas!

 

¿Donde te lo hicieron?



#8 Storm

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Escrito 25 April 2022 - 10:52:14

¿Donde te lo hicieron?

 

Los misterios, Josebes. :uff:



#9 Ka2000

Ka2000

    F20C (S2000) 240 hp

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Escrito 27 May 2022 - 15:30:24

Parece que hay una nueva opcion , montar el motor del nuevo CIVIC TYPE R directamente con este kit

 



#10 Storm

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Escrito 27 May 2022 - 19:44:22

Parece que hay una nueva opcion , montar el motor del nuevo CIVIC TYPE R directamente con este kit

...

 

Aquí... :P

 

https://clubhondaspi...or-honda-s2000/

 

...copón! :meparto:


Editado por Storm, 27 May 2022 - 19:44:41.





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