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#1 gasss_85

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Escrito 10 mayo 2009 - 18:14:17

Pues señores y señoras, tengo el placer de anunciaros que al fin hay un equivalente a la Kpro para el huevo, su nombre es: FlashPro.
Ventaja sobre la K-pro (como bien dice el último párrafo): No necesitas desmontar la centralita y enviársela a los de Hondata, simplemente compras el cacharrito y a vivir.

Link: http://www.hondata.com/flashpro.html

Información:

Hondata FlashPro

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The FlashPro allows full user tuning and datalogging of late model performance Civics. It includes Windows based software called FlashProManager.

The FlashPro connects from your laptop's USB port to your vehicles diagnostic port to provide 90 second programming with a variety of calibrations with extensive real time and stored datalogging capabilities.

Supported vehicles

* 2006 + US Civic Si (RRB-A01 through RRB-A14)
* 2007 + European Civic Type R (RSP-E01 through RSP-E03)
* 2007 + Japanese Civic Type R (RRC-J01 through RRC-J04)

Price and availability

$795 in June 2009

Features

FlashPro features

* Programmable ECU interface.
* Connects vía OBDII diagnostic port.
* USB 2.0 connection
* Works with Laptop or Desktop
* No ECU modification necessary.
* 90 second ECU programming time.
* 20 hours on board datalogging memory.
* FlashProManager Windows software.
* Check and clear diagnostic codes.
* Custom laptop gauges.
* Theft mitigation

2006+ Civic Si / Civic Type R tuning features

* Choice of AFM or MAP based tuning.
* Support for MAP based forced induction.
* Support for larger injectors.
* Ignition, fuel, cam angle table editing.
* VTEC window.
* Rev, launch and speed limiters.
* Race vehicle sensor disabling.
* Plus other compensation and trim tables.
* Map tracing

What do I need to run the software?

* Windows laptop or desktop
* Windows XP, Vista or 7
* USB 2.0 port
* CDROM Drive

Training videos

We've put together a series of training videos to describe the function and use of the FlashPro. Note that the videos use pre-release software. Some displayed functions may change slightly before release. View the videos in High Definition Full Screen to view the screen shots.

FlashPro Introduction


Hondata's new generation programming tool for the 06 - 09 US Civic Si, the Japanese 06-09 Civic Type R and the European 07-09 Civic Type R. A brief introduction.

Race Calibration


Hondata has developed a Race calibration which allows you to tune with the MAP sensor and bypass the limitations of the MAF sensor. A look at the tuning principles for forced induction on a modern returnless fuel system.

Datalogging and Air fuel ratios


A look a the extensive datalogging capabilities of the FlashPro and the many ways in which to examine your engine data. We touch on the datalogging of the air fuel ratios and how you can use it to adjust your tuning.

The tuning process is similar to the K-Pro.

Will the FlashPro be available for other Hondas and Acuras?

The FlashPro has the potential to work with most new model Hondas and Acuras made since 2007. Our focus for the moment is for the Civic and will evaluate other models as time permits.

I already have a reflash. Is there a discount?

Yes, for 3 months from the date of release a discount is offered to existing Civic Si reflash owners. In order to qualify for the discount, the ECU will need to be sent to Hondata where the the FlashPro is locked to your ECU.

The discount is $150 for existing Civic Si reflash owners which includes free overnight return shipping. (additional $50 value)

If you choose not to send in your ECU for a discount the FlashPro will still work perfectly for your car.

How does it compare to KPro?

KPro is a completely different product. It was created for the 02-04 RSX style ECU. It will only work on that type of ECU with the exact same Oki processor. Honda has changed the architecture of the ECU, including ECU architecture, processor and encapsulation, so that there is no way the KPro can be made to work on any other ECU.

K-Pro requires the ECU be sent to a Hondata for the installation of the K-Pro daughterboard. By comparison, new FlashPro owners need never remove the ECU from their car.

Because FlashPro is a different product from KPro, it has different features. Not all features implemented in KPro are possible with FlashPro.

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Questions and Answers


- Are there base calibrations?
Yes, for all common part combinations, plus JR and CT superchargers.

- Do I need dyno tuning?
It shouldn't be necessary for common part combinations (intake, exhaust), but you still have the option of custom tuning if you wish to get a little more. Camshafts and race headers probably will need tuning to get the most of the them - it will depend on the manufacturer.

- Can I get rid of the AFM?
You can switch to a MAP based calibration (recommened for forced induction and/or cams). You need to still physically retain the AFM because it also contains the IAT sensor.

- I've already paid a deposit on my CT supercharger Stage 2 reflash. Can I upgrade to FlashPro?
If your ECU is sent in before the FlashPro is released you will get the Stage 2 reflash.
If you paid a deposit for a Stage II reflash, you will need to discuss upgrade options with whoever took your deposit as neither CT Engineering or Hondata take deposits.

- Will this work on R18s or automatics?
Initially the FlashPro is for the US/Canada Si and Euro/Asia CTR. ECU part numbers are listed on our website.

- Will this work on more than one vehicle?
The FlashPro is locked to one vehicle. It can be unlocked and transferred to another vehicle by returning the ECU to stock.

- Can I share the calibrations I make for my car?
Yes.

- Do I need the laptop in the vehicle to reflash the ECU?
No. The FlashPro can upload either with or without a laptop.

- Is there a VTEC window?
Yes. This means that VTEC will operate based on rpm and engine load. For example, the supercharger reflashes have a VTEC window from 3200 rpm - 6000 rpm. At full throttle, VTEC operates at 3200 rpm. At light throttle, VTEC operates at 6000 rpm, and for load between full and light the VTEC will shift between 3200 rpm and 6000 rpm.

- So does that mean 1 unit Hondata flashpro can only work with one ecu or car only? Which mean i can't buy one Flashpro and use it together with a few of my buddies Civics?
One ECU and vehicle at a time. You can unlock the FlashPro by returning the ECU to stock, and then transfer to another vehicle.

- Does it have control over DBW?
Yes, but we don't change anything to do with DBW. The first reason is that there is no need to - the DBW control works fairly well as it is. The second reason is for legal liability.

- Any option of immobilizer control?
The immobilizer can not be disabled. We've implemented a number of features designed to protect the owner of the vehicle from theft, and one of these is not to allow the immobilizer to be disabled. This is going to be much less of an issue than previous products because the ECU does not need to be removed / swapped.

- 90 sec programming - does that mean it can't do real time tuning?
Correct. In any case, if you are tuning a vehicle, you need to wait longer than 90 seconds between dyno runs in order to maintain consistency between runs. If you think you could set the dyno up as constant rpm or load, and then tune each cell in each table, this type of tuning does not work because the engine temperature and therefore output changes fairly rapidly, prohibiting this type of tuning.

- If the ECU had been reflashed by another maker, can Flashpro still work?
Probably - we could tell you based off the ECU part & serial numbers plus the calibration ID. When you unlock the FlashPro it will only be reflashed back to a stock calibration.

-Will this support a 64-Bit Windows Vista?
Not at first. We need to make sure the USB driver is working 100% before handing over the money to Microsoft, because after that every change to the USB driver incurrs a substantial cost to re-certify.

- Can it control nitrous?
Not at the moment. However, you can at least control the ignition timing to make nitrous safer.

- Preorders?
Hondata is not taking preorders, but some of our dealers are.

- Will dealers need a software license?
No. Every FlashPro will come with the full tuning software FlashProManager.

Dónde comprar la Hondata en Europa:

INTER-TUNING bvba
Jules Vanlaerstraat 9, Bertem B-3060 Belgium
+32(0)164825

NPART Engineering
Mouswn 48, Athens 19013 Greece
+30694679894

Alientech SRL
vía dei Cordari, 1, Trino (VC) 13039 Italy
+39 0161 801

ECU Performance
Wlodarzewska 65, Warsaw 02-384 Poland
+48602-244-3

Abbey Motorsport
Unit 1-2 Stonehall Farm Woodhurst Lane, Oxted Surrey RH8 9HJ United Kingdom
+44 18 83 73

CPL Racing
Units 3 & 4 Regis Ind Est, Dorset Road Kent ME12 1LY United Kingdom
01795 668778


Entre otros... estos son los que salen en la web de Hondata ;)

En España, podéis preguntar en KDperformance, que Kike trabaja muy bien y la traen sin problemas. http://www.kdperformance.com

Más información en:
http://www.civinfo.c...ks-hondata.html
http://www.8thcivic....s-flashpro.html

#2 Maxiato-R

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Escrito 10 mayo 2009 - 18:23:06

Esta de p**a madre, a ver si mejora la cosa y me pillo un cacharrito de esos jejeje

Y digo yo, si se pone uno a trastearlo un poco no se podra modificar el bloqueo ese que tiene?

Estaria bien porque asi entre varios se compra uno y sale muchisimo mas rentable.

#3 gasss_85

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Escrito 10 mayo 2009 - 18:25:42

Yo no creo que sea muy complicado el "crackear" el aparatejo para que se pueda usar en varios coches a la vez.
De todas formas, les he preguntado a los de Hondata si es necesario llevarla todo el tiempo montada o si se puede desconectar una vez usada porque, en caso de que haga falta llevarla siempre, no tendría lógica el molestarse en intentar crakearla para usarla en más coches :oops:
A ver qué nos cuentan y a partir de ahí se verá ;P

#4 Maxiato-R

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Escrito 10 mayo 2009 - 19:25:53

Me mantengo a la espera, si se puede hacer algo asi podriamos mirar algo entre varios no?

#5 gasss_85

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Escrito 10 mayo 2009 - 21:39:18

Confirmado: Sólo hay que conectar la FlashPro mientras se hace un reflash de la ECU.

Cito:

The FlashPro does not need to be connected all the time - only when reflashing the ECU.



#6 SPORTCAR

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Escrito 10 mayo 2009 - 21:57:05

y esto no se podia apàñar también para ep3? supongo que no

Editado por SPORTCAR, 10 mayo 2009 - 21:57:32.


#7 foguete

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Escrito 10 mayo 2009 - 22:00:46

y esto no se podia apàñar también para ep3? supongo que no


teniendo la Kpro no se para que quieres eso








gaspar!!dalle duro ahora!que non tes disculpa :P

#8 gasss_85

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Escrito 10 mayo 2009 - 22:05:03

Ahora es cuando me alegro de no haber estado comprando mucha chorrada hasta ahora XD ;P

La ECU del FN2 y la del EP3 no son compatibles (por eso ha tardado tanto en salir esta FlashPro y no han adaptado la Kpro del EP3).
La FlashPro es válida para (como ya ponía más arriba):

* 2006 + US Civic Si (RRB-A01 through RRB-A14)
* 2007 + European Civic Type R (RSP-E01 through RSP-E03)
* 2007 + Japanese Civic Type R (RRC-J01 through RRC-J04)

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Escrito 11 mayo 2009 - 02:40:48

Es un sistema como el q se usa en renault, lo q hace es reflashear la ecu original, esperemos q con el tiempo le vayan poniendo al menos tantos parametros a modificar como con la k-pro.

Un saludo

#10 vga666

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Escrito 11 mayo 2009 - 06:04:43

¿ y para que leñe sirve la k-pro ? Sobre todo me interesa si merece hacerlo si llevas el coche de serie, si varia el corte de inyección y que garantias hay de que no se jorobe estrepitosamente la centralita en un momento dado y toque soltar pasta gansa para repararlo.

Thanks. :)

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Escrito 11 mayo 2009 - 13:22:22

J@$~#R es cojonudo el invento.. ya podian haber sacado algo asi para los EP3 :(

#12 Murenitu

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Escrito 11 mayo 2009 - 15:38:47

a ver quien el chulo que hace con su fn2 de conejillo de indias XD

#13 DiSCLAiMER

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Escrito 11 mayo 2009 - 17:15:40

jeje curioso el nombre del log de la captura JRSC (jackson racing super charger?)

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Escrito 11 mayo 2009 - 18:01:54

y esto no se podia apàñar también para ep3? supongo que no


No se puede, mayormente porque cambiaron de fabricante de centralitas o algo asi escuché, y resulta que estas son mas faciles de toquetear.

Gass yo sabia que eso es un cable como el de vag, que sirve como interfaz entre la centralita y el pc, para datos y demas, y luego se quita.

El problema es ese, ver donde esta ese bloqueo y hacer algun apaño, pero eso ya lo inventaran los guiris y nosotros lo copiaremos y arreando jajaja :P

#15 vga666

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Escrito 11 mayo 2009 - 22:48:53

J@$~#R es cojonudo el invento.. ya podian haber sacado algo asi para los EP3 :(


quiero una foto de tu tapa de motor pintadita, a ver que tal quedo al final, jejeje. :P

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Escrito 19 mayo 2009 - 13:36:07

Bueno, he actualizado el primer post, he añadido unos videos y algo de información ;)




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