Duda ECU AEM EMS v2
#1
Escrito 23 September 2012 - 20:35:01
Estoy mirando centralitas de nuevo y he visto la AEM EMS v2 que no pinta nada mal.
Pero en la lista de caracteristicas hay una que me descoloca:
- Programmable traction control.
http://949racing.com/aems2000.aspx
A que se refiere?? No creo que añada control de tracción al coche no??
Un Saludo
#2
Escrito 23 September 2012 - 20:46:04
NI DE COÑEN.Hola
Estoy mirando centralitas de nuevo y he visto la AEM EMS v2 que no pinta nada mal.
Pero en la lista de caracteristicas hay una que me descoloca:
- Programmable traction control.
http://949racing.com/aems2000.aspx
A que se refiere?? No creo que añada control de tracción al coche no??
Un Saludo
Supongo que puedes hacer que corte gas en determinadas situaciones pero... poco más.
#3
Escrito 23 September 2012 - 20:46:53
Si no me equivoco... Esas ecus nunca van tan bien como debieran, que me corrijan si me equivoco pero por ejemplo el adelanto de vtec lo hace cuando le sale de los cataplins...
#4
Escrito 24 September 2012 - 06:58:52
Básicamente lo que hace es determinar si estas acelerando más rápido de lo que el coche puede. Si lo hace, es que esta patinando / perdiendo tracción.
#5
Escrito 24 September 2012 - 09:42:23
MU bien explicado! A éso me refería yo!Este invento solo recibe información de las rpm y del sensor de posición del pedal.
Básicamente lo que hace es determinar si estas acelerando más rápido de lo que el coche puede. Si lo hace, es que esta patinando / perdiendo tracción.
#6
Escrito 24 September 2012 - 10:08:57
#7
Escrito 24 September 2012 - 11:25:05
Segun lo que comentaban, es mejor hacerse com una ecu moderna y modificar lo que se necesite...
A que te refieres con una ecu moderna?? a una original?
#8
Escrito 24 September 2012 - 11:34:11
Yo lo veo un lio porque me imagino que habra que meter nuevo cableado... Etc no se si el cuadro funcionara... Un lios egun mi opinion, vamos.
Aunque también es cierto que a mi, por lo menos, esas ecus spoon etc, tampoco me hacen mucha ilu, mas encendido, y tiempo de inyeccion y a pelarla... Eso si tener en cuenta que aqui no tenemos buena gasolina, es awachirri.
#9
Escrito 24 September 2012 - 13:37:02
En cuanto a la ECU/piggyback programable, la mejor es la que mejor conozca la persona que te la configure (si es la AEM pues AEM, si es la eManage pues la eManage y si es la Kpro pues la Kpro..)
Yo tengo la eManage, pero si tuviese que pillarme una hoy, me pillaria la Flashpro (que no es compatible con los pre-MY06 por cierto..) no porque sea mejor, sino porque es "mas fácil"
#10
Escrito 24 September 2012 - 13:49:07
La AEM EMS Series 2 y tiene muy buena pinta ademas parece que con la version 2 han solucionado el problema de que funcione el marcador de la temperatura del agua del del s2000
Link Web AEM EMS 2
"The Series 2 for the S2000 even lets you keep the stock coolant temperature gauge. "
#11
Escrito 26 September 2012 - 21:30:55
Mmm.. Pues vaya mierda de control de tracción
#12
Escrito 27 September 2012 - 10:18:03
http://www.racelogic...raction-control
Al parecer es totalmente configurable y "race track" friendly
#13
Escrito 27 September 2012 - 10:34:53
A ver, a ver,...Hay gente en Inglaterra que tiene buenas experiencias con esto en su S2000
http://www.racelogic...raction-control
Al parecer es totalmente configurable y "race track" friendly
Deibit, qué cuesta ésto y qué implicaciones tiene el montarlo?Once you have driven a powerful car with Racelogic Traction Control, you will never want to be without it.
-In a rear wheel drive car you can use full throttle around a corner with greater confidence that the rear end isn't going to suddenly break away.
-In a front wheel drive vehicle push-on understeer is cured, with the system setting the correct level of power to finely balance the vehicle.
-In wet and slippery conditions the car accelerates as fast as grip allows without skidding all over the road.It does not only positively enhance the performance of the vehicle, Racelogic Traction Control also dramatically reduces the chances of an accident.
This is why companies like Gumpert and Koenigsegg choose to fit our system into their cars.
Muchas gracias.
Edito:
http://www.racelogic.co.uk/index.php/en/other-products/traction-control?start=1
Why Racelogic Traction Control?
Once you have driven a powerful car with Racelogic Traction Control, you will never want to be without it.
-In a rear wheel drive car you can use full throttle around a corner with greater confidence that the rear end isn't going to suddenly break away.
-In a front wheel drive vehicle push-on understeer is cured, with the system setting the correct level of power to finely balance the vehicle.
-In wet and slippery conditions the car accelerates as fast as grip allows without skidding all over the road.It does not only positively enhance the performance of the vehicle, Racelogic Traction Control also dramatically reduces the chances of an accident.
This is why companies like Gumpert and Koenigsegg choose to fit our system into their cars.
http://www.racelogic...control?start=3
How does Traction Control work?
The system works by monitoring the speed of all four wheels using the ABS system or specially fitted sensors. When wheel spin is detected the engine power is reduced, by cutting a single injector pulse, until grip is resumed. This occurs in a thousandth of a second, and appears to the driver as a slight misfire with no loss in acceleration.
Maximum acceleration is achieved by limiting the slip between the tyre and the road. The point at which a tyre is just beginning to slip against the road gives the maximum coefficient of friction value.
From the graph on the left it can be seen that the maximum coefficient of friction (µ) occurs at a slip between tyre and road of 10% when dry, and around 5% when wet.
Many factors affect the ideal level of slip, wet / dry conditions, speed of the vehicle, lateral g-force (cornering), tyre compound, tyre pressures etc. Ideally the driver should be able to dial in a base level of slip that takes into account weather and tyres, and the system should adjust automatically for speed of the vehicle and lateral g-force.
When cornering, the system will reduce the amount of slip available, to prevent lateral slip from occurring, and vary this amount depending on the speed of the vehicle. At high speed, low grip situations, this slip should be around 1-2% to maintain forward momentum, and at low speed high grip situations, this can be much higher.
http://www.racelogic...control?start=4
Does it fit and how is it fitted?
Racelogic Traction Control is suitable for petrol-engined cars that have electronic fuel injection. The system is integrated with the car’s injector signal wires – so the signals are always passing through the Traction ECU. A suitable RPM signal must also be connected.
However the following conditions make it incompatible:
Misfire detection: If your engine management acts upon detecting misfires by putting the vehicle into limp-home mode, or illuminating the check-engine dashboard lamp, RLTC cannot be used unless the misfire detection function is disabled. This can be done in some cases by ECU tuning specialists.
Pulse width modulation to control/limit the injector current.
Peak and hold injector drivers.
Injector resistance lower than 4ohms.
Consulting a professional
The fitting can be carried out by any competent auto-electrician or an electronically competent mechanic or garage.
If the car doesn't have ABS then you will need to fit four wheel speed sensors to the vehicle, which involves fabricating brackets and adjusting the sensors.
We have a network of dealers who can supply and fit the systems. Please look at the Distributors’ List to locate your nearest Traction Control dealer.
Do it yourself
If you intend to install Racelogic Traction Control yourself, please follow the Fitting Instruction in this Manual (PDF format). This is a generic manual and as such does not contain vehicle-specific data. We would recommend consulting a competent auto electrician should you require precise information.
If you own one of the following cars, you may as well follow the links below. These are threads from owner's club forums and can provide useful guidelines, but please be aware that Racelogic accepts no responsibility for damage caused to owner's vehicles as a result of using this information.
A laptop computer is necessary in order to correctly configure the system. Racelogic has some vehicle pin-out data for some vehicles – please contact us to see if we have this for your car.
http://www.racelogic...control?start=6
Retail Prices and Purchase Information
Part Number: RLTC6A
Traction System: Adjustable Traction Control (Up to 6 Cyl) ABS
Price: £535
Editado por Storm, 27 September 2012 - 10:44:06.
#14
Escrito 27 September 2012 - 12:06:52
Aqui hay un brico.. pero creo que es del modelo mas antiguo (pero bueno, no creo que cambie mucho)
http://www.s2ki.com/...93&t=549449&st=
#15
Escrito 27 September 2012 - 13:49:01
MUY interesante.Yo solo lo he visto instalado.. lo bueno es que no es un boton on/off sino que tiene diferentes configuraciones que puedes seleccionar (por ejemplo, lluvia, seco calle, seco circuito..)
Aqui hay un brico.. pero creo que es del modelo mas antiguo (pero bueno, no creo que cambie mucho)
http://www.s2ki.com/...93&t=549449&st=
En ese mismo hilo hay un enlace a otro brico de un coche inglés:
http://www.s2ki.com/...2-racelogic-tc/
P.D: Esos puertos me suenan...
http://www.s2ki.com/...st__p__13689248
http://clubhondaspir...s/#entry1832155
Editado por Storm, 27 September 2012 - 14:01:52.
#16
Escrito 27 September 2012 - 15:17:36
#17
Escrito 27 September 2012 - 18:17:58
Seguro?!?traction control is for girls!
Incluso aunque el coche sólo se use como algo lúdico (no sea de uso diario), NADIE puede ir SIEMPRE pendiente de él o evitar terminar por tener un golpe que se podría haber evitado con un control de tracción. Es cuestión de tiempo y de tentar a la suerte! Tanto va el cántaro a la fuente que...
P.D: No me pregunten cómo aprendí ésto:
http://clubhondaspir..._+primer +golpe
Poseso.
Editado por Storm, 27 September 2012 - 18:20:36.
#18
Escrito 27 September 2012 - 18:40:32
Editado por S2000Gr, 27 September 2012 - 18:42:27.
#19
Escrito 27 September 2012 - 20:52:16
Es curioso porque es un coche que, para los tiempos que corren, no es relativamente potente pero es tan nervioso que parece que lleves un coche con el doble de potencia por lo delicado de conducir que es.
Precisamente eso es lo que me gusta, que no se lo termina uno nunca...
#20
Escrito 28 September 2012 - 07:21:07
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